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.41 magnum deer bullets #13549321 02/ten/19 OP Member Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 166 I've owned three .41 magnums for years now (a 6" Dan Wesson, 4 5/eight" Blackhawk, and an 1894 Marlin) only accept never hunted with them, just because I've chosen to bear something else. I'm considering using the Dan Wesson and/or Marlin this fall for deer. I've searched this site and others, and the 210 grain Hornady XTP seems popular. Does anyone take any experience with it in a carbine? I'thou wondering if information technology will agree together with the extra 300-400(?) fps out of a 20" barrel. I'm also considering the 180 grain Barnes X and the 210 Swift A-Frame, as they should hold together at the higher velocity. I would likewise consider hardcast, although I'd really adopt some expansion. I'd like to use the aforementioned load in both the revolver and carbine. I'm getting old enough where I like to simplify. Thanks in advance. Presidents come and go, but entitlements are forever - Michael Medved Our forefathers would be shooting by now Re: .41 magnum deer bullets [Re: 444afic] #13549381 02/10/19 Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 5,313 smithrjd Campfire Tracker Campfire Tracker Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 5,313 Hornady 210 XTP with a stout load of H110 works in a Southward&W 357PD have not tried it in a carbine. Re: .41 magnum deer bullets [Re: 444afic] #13549464 02/10/19 Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: vii,904 RJM Campfire Outfitter Campfire Outfitter Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: seven,904 170 Sierra JHC with 26.0 grains of H110....2100 fps from a Carbine....1625 from a half dozen.5" Blackhawk. Gary Reeder'due south favorite deer bullet from .41s and he has killed a lot of deer with that bullet. The bullet is a a hunting bullet and is a lot tougher than one would call back... Bob If yous tin can not deal with reality, reality volition deal with y'all.... Re: .41 magnum deer bullets [Re: 444afic] #13549605 02/10/19 Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 21,188 Idaho_Shooter Campfire Kahuna Bivouac Kahuna Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 21,188 A few years ago I did some penetration tests with my SBH hunter in 41 mag. While it is widely recognized that water is not the ideal examination medium, that is what I had available. I was shooting directly down into a 55 gal steel drum full of water. The 210 gr XTP at 1400 fps lost almost 35% of its weight but did not separate on affect. Information technology maintained enough velocity to fully penetrate the h2o and strike the base of operations of the drum hard plenty to show impact marks on the bullet. The 170 gr Sierra is touted as a great deer bullet. My testing showed it to be less tough than the 210 XTP. At 1500 fps the 170 separated core from jacket. The core was reduced to a small plug about 1/4 inch long and original diameter. At 1000 fps the Sierra fared much amend with the core retaining much more weight, just still separated from the jacket. The 210 gr plated Berrys bullet at 1400 fps, on the other hand remained fully intact and punched holes through the bottom of the steel pulsate. I am convinced it would shoot end to end through a mature balderdash elk or even a moose. I take recovered a 210 Berry'south from a frozen clay back stop later on firing from the Marlin Carbine at over 1700 fps. Except for copper plating stripped from the back half of the bullet, behind a heavy roll crimp, the bullet looked like it could have been loaded and fired again. The 210 XTP is the virtually accurate bullet in my SBH and also shoots well in the Marlin. I would exist comfy using it for deer from either weaon. For very large game, I cast a 250 gr bullet which would be ideal. My ideal as a bourgeois: That each person may reap as he/she has sown. Re: .41 magnum deer bullets [Re: 444afic] #13549870 02/10/19 Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 16,201 65BR Campfire Kahuna Campfire Kahuna Joined: February 2007 Posts: xvi,201 Bob, one cannot argue with outcomes information. I'd happily run a 210 RP SP, XTP, or the 170 SHP. A practiced Keith or similar in 220 or upwards is proven besides. I call up 180'due south being used in 44's. The Fed load shot 1910 in my old x" TC, Slammed the rams difficult at 100 yds. Only 10fps difference. Final edited by 65BR; 02/x/19. Re: .41 magnum deer bullets [Re: 444afic] #13550569 02/xi/19 Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: seven,904 RJM Campfire Outfitter Campfire Outfitter Joined: February 2001 Posts: 7,904 Dave...that is why I like the 170 at high speed over the 210s...in real deer they expand and deliver a dial. I have not shot a deer with the 170/.41 even so merely have with the 180/.44. Shot a 6 point in the chest that was walking toward me at a slight angle. Bullet hit just right of centerline, turned the heart and lungs to jello and the broke the last 2 ribs exiting out the other side. Deer could not get to the footing fast enough....dissimilar a deer I hit right through the lungs with a 215 cast that ran off like information technology wasn't even striking... Just really, a well placed shot will kill any deer...the only question becomes when is it going to striking the footing... Bob If you can not bargain with reality, reality will deal with y'all.... Re: .41 magnum deer bullets [Re: 444afic] #13550689 02/xi/19 Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 21,188 Idaho_Shooter Campfire Kahuna Campfire Kahuna Joined: December 2002 Posts: 21,188 Yes, deer are like shooting fish in a barrel to kill. The but matter I ever killed west/ the 170 Sierra jhc was an lxxx lb feral blackness lab in the pasture with my stock. It was ane of my hotter loads fired from the Marlin. The bullet hit the ribs (heart and lungs) at 90 degrees. The canis familiaris ran East to the gate, through information technology and headed west, so apparently the encephalon was still working okay. It covered nigh 100 yds before falling over expressionless. It has been a few years, but I exercise non think the bullet fabricated an exit. But about the same as every middle shot deer I have e'er seen shot with a 22-250 or a 30-06. Last edited by Idaho_Shooter; 02/11/19. My ideal as a conservative: That each person may reap as he/she has sown. Re: .41 magnum deer bullets [Re: Idaho_Shooter] #13550727 02/11/19 Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 19,583 shrapnel Bivouac Kahuna Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 19,583 A few years agone I did some penetration tests with my SBH hunter in 41 mag. While it is widely recognized that water is not the ideal exam medium, that is what I had available. I was shooting straight down into a 55 gal steel pulsate full of water. The 210 gr XTP at 1400 fps lost about 35% of its weight only did not dissever on impact. It maintained plenty velocity to fully penetrate the h2o and strike the base of operations of the drum hard plenty to show impact marks on the bullet. The 170 gr Sierra is touted as a great deer bullet. My testing showed it to exist less tough than the 210 XTP. At 1500 fps the 170 separated core from jacket. The cadre was reduced to a small plug about 1/4 inch long and original diameter. At k fps the Sierra fared much better with the cadre retaining much more than weight, but still separated from the jacket. The 210 gr plated Berrys bullet at 1400 fps, on the other paw remained fully intact and punched holes through the bottom of the steel drum. I am convinced it would shoot stop to end through a mature bull elk or even a moose. I have recovered a 210 Drupe's from a frozen dirt back stop after firing from the Marlin Carbine at over 1700 fps. Except for copper plating stripped from the back half of the bullet, backside a heavy scroll crimp, the bullet looked like information technology could have been loaded and fired again. The 210 XTP is the most authentic bullet in my SBH and also shoots well in the Marlin. I would be comfortable using information technology for deer from either weaon. For very big game, I cast a 250 gr bullet which would be ideal. I did all those comparisons years ago and found little value in shooting into any medium at point lank range. I used my 41 magnum for killing everything from gophers to deer. Recovering bullets from clay to deer, I learned that a practiced hard cast bullet volition perform equally good as any jacketed bullet on game due to niggling or no bullet expansion on game at realistic shooting distances... If you want to fit in with a new oversupply, ask them if they know shrapnel. There is no friggin' way they won't know who that man is. He is the Chuck Norris of Montana and you will have a nice icebreaker to talk over. Travis Re: .41 magnum deer bullets [Re: 444afic] #13550879 02/eleven/xix Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 10,804 FlyboyFlem Campfire 'Bwana Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: ten,804 Bought my showtime 41 in 1973 and been shooting zero but cast heavies since..Well-nigh deer killed were from tree stands with no 2nd shots required..A practiced cast bullet is difficult to crush if used in the proper velocity window. 245 grs You meliorate be agape of a ghost!! "Woody you were baptized in prop wash"..crossfireoops Woody Re: .41 magnum deer bullets [Re: 444afic] #13550959 02/eleven/nineteen Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: one,094 byron Campfire Regular Campfire Regular Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: i,094 I always just love these threads on hunting with revolvers. Just tons of experience shared by some of the all-time out at that place. The just bullet I have taken whatever game with (Pronghorn) has been the CPBC 250 grain WFNGC. Exemplary performance, and never a recovered bullet for any that is worth. Take been playing with a 240 grain "Keith" manner bullet from Rimrock though. Over a expert load of IMR4227 it is proving to be very authentic, and of course should perform very well on game. Prissy looking bullet Woody. Re: .41 magnum deer bullets [Re: FlyboyFlem] #13551443 02/11/nineteen Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 38,895 mathman Campfire Oracle Campfire Oracle Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 38,895 Bought my first 41 in 1973 and been shooting null only cast heavies since..Most deer killed were from tree stands with no 2d shots required..A adept cast bullet is hard to beat if used in the proper velocity window. 245 grs Good looking bullet. What mould? "In the real world, think of the 6.v Creedmoor every bit the modernized/standardized/optimized version of the 6.5x55/.260." John Barsness 2019 Re: .41 magnum deer bullets [Re: mathman] #13551569 02/11/xix Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 10,804 FlyboyFlem Bivouac 'Bwana Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 10,804 The 245 gr FN is Accurate mold # 41-240FR .Alloyed 25:1 Information technology'due south a very decent bullet, authentic and a good penetrator. This was my go to heavy for 20 + yrs..Mold is the Lyman 410426 a 240 gr RN heavy originally designed for the Winchester mod 1910 cocky loading burglarize..401 WSL.. Never had issues with its performance too and all the same employ it today. Last edited by FlyboyFlem; 02/11/nineteen. You better be afraid of a ghost!! "Woody you lot were baptized in prop wash"..crossfireoops Woody Re: .41 magnum deer bullets [Re: 444afic] #13551595 02/11/19 Joined: January 2019 Posts: 353 4570fan Bivouac Regular Campfire Regular Joined: January 2019 Posts: 353 Non a 41 mag only my 44 mag carbine with 240 gr XTP'due south is a deer hammer. I suspect you you find similar results. Last edited past 450fan; 02/11/xix. Re: .41 magnum deer bullets [Re: 444afic] #13551690 02/11/xix Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 21,188 Idaho_Shooter Campfire Kahuna Campfire Kahuna Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 21,188 Really, I do not call back one could get incorrect with any of the choices mentioned hither for killing deer at reasonable range. Shrapnel, a quick expect at any ballistic chart makes it paifully obvious there is a huge difference in handgun velocity between the cage and fifty yds or 100 yds. But I am curious, are you saying that jacketed hollow points fail to expand on game down range. My platonic as a conservative: That each person may reap as he/she has sown. Re: .41 magnum deer bullets [Re: 444afic] #13552718 02/11/xix Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 166 444afic OP Member OP Member Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 166 Cheers all for the replies. I currently take on hand... 100 250 grain Cast Core hardcast bullets 100 265 grain Beartooth hardcast bullets 250 210 grain Berry's plated bullets (probably simply use for practise, fifty-fifty though apparently they're tough) ...plus I have a box of Barnes 180 grain XPB factory loads. I volition as well pick upwards a box of XTPs and see what shoots best in both guns. It doesn't audio like there'due south a incorrect conclusion. Thanks once more. Presidents come and go, but entitlements are forever - Michael Medved Our forefathers would be shooting past now Re: .41 magnum deer bullets [Re: 444afic] #13553480 02/12/xix Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 2,377 PennDog Campfire Ranger Campfire Ranger Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: two,377 I've shot deer with the Hornady 210 XTP out of 6" Southward&Westward 57/657s and my Marlin 1894s and accept had good results - institute one of the bullets on an angling shot - under the hide right in front end of the hind quarter....after going through the opposite shoulder, lungs, liver, and stomach......it held together nicely. That on was out of a M57 (mv was around 1350 fps), the deer was shot at 40 yards and he weighted 160 pounds field dressed. Any of the bullets mentioned would piece of work fine at the velocities and yardages typically shot with the .41. Practiced luck......gotta love the .41😊 PennDog Last edited past PennDog; 02/12/19. Re: .41 magnum deer bullets [Re: 444afic] #13553481 02/12/19 Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: seven,904 RJM Campfire Outfitter Campfire Outfitter Joined: February 2001 Posts: 7,904 xx grains of H110 with the 250 Bandage Core runs 1305 from my Liberty Arms 97 4.25". Have to check but I'm using twenty.0 or 21.0 of H110 with the 265...non certain if I have clocked that one nonetheless or not. 210Berry's plated..8.0 grains of Unique is my Universal target load and runs 950 form a 4" South&W. 9.0 1100 and 10.0 1180. I have run them with 22.0 of H110 and they were near 1300 fps. Bob If you can not deal with reality, reality will deal with yous.... Re: .41 magnum deer bullets [Re: FlyboyFlem] #13554034 02/12/19 Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 38,895 mathman Bivouac Oracle Campfire Oracle Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 38,895 Woody, Doesn't the flat nose provide more "whop" than the round nose when it hits meat? one thousand "In the real world, call up of the 6.five Creedmoor every bit the modernized/standardized/optimized version of the 6.5x55/.260." John Barsness 2019 Re: .41 magnum deer bullets [Re: mathman] #13554054 02/12/19 Joined: May 2007 Posts: 3,765 ruraldoc Campfire Guide Campfire Guide Joined: May 2007 Posts: 3,765 Woody, Doesn't the flat nose provide more "whop" than the round nose when information technology hits meat? m I'm not Woody put that is my impression likewise unless you go under 800 fps at impact where they are both lackluster. My lackluster comments come up from using apartment nose solids on hogs from a 40 SW likewise as round nose solids in the 45 ACP. Both are every bit unimpressive. Merely when affect velocities are around 1200 fps,flat nose solids accept a lot more than smack to them IME. Re: .41 magnum deer bullets [Re: 444afic] #13554209 02/12/19 Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: xv,991 RoninPhx Bivouac Kahuna Campfire Kahuna Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 15,991 i have written on here about this before, but hither goes. i head shot an elk a few years ago with a 41magnum using a gilt dot. it hit her and then hard she had smoke coming out of her olfactory organ, and it bulged her eyes out. That fabricated a laic out of me. I don't shoot many jacketed bullets, prefering lead. and i kind of like the heavier ones, like 230 to 250 grain. But that's going to finish most things. THE BIRTH Identify OF GERONIMO

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